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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greater heights of condescension this paper has never seen&quot; since you, Jacques.

Lakshmi and Razan, I too apologize for the behaviors of that very &quot;community&quot; to which Jacques so desires to be a part. If these are the actions and attitudes of that community, though, I do not consider myself a member. Congratulations to the two of you for continuing to be committed enough to voice your frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greater heights of condescension this paper has never seen&#8221; since you, Jacques.</p>
<p>Lakshmi and Razan, I too apologize for the behaviors of that very &#8220;community&#8221; to which Jacques so desires to be a part. If these are the actions and attitudes of that community, though, I do not consider myself a member. Congratulations to the two of you for continuing to be committed enough to voice your frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the hasty sarcasm, mayne. A response in earnest: I consider myself a member of what&#039;s known as the &#039;college community&#039;, closely aligned with students proper and fiercely protective of its integrity. Ergo it&#039;s appropriate not only that I took offense, but that I reacted. 

-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the hasty sarcasm, mayne. A response in earnest: I consider myself a member of what&#8217;s known as the &#8216;college community&#8217;, closely aligned with students proper and fiercely protective of its integrity. Ergo it&#8217;s appropriate not only that I took offense, but that I reacted. </p>
<p>-J</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Matt. I&#039;m _not_ a student. A million thanks for the reminder, don&#039;t know how I could have been so foolish. Everything I said is hereby null and void. Disregard it in full, world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Matt. I&#8217;m _not_ a student. A million thanks for the reminder, don&#8217;t know how I could have been so foolish. Everything I said is hereby null and void. Disregard it in full, world!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques: You are not a student at Connecticut College, and therefore, not a target of Lakshmi Kannan &amp; Razan Khabour&#039;s letter.

For myself, I would like to state that if I saw anyone enacting this kind of hatred on campus, I would report the incident immediately, and let the vandals know that I was doing so; I implore other students who witness these crimes to do the same.  

I am appalled by what happened last Saturday.  I apologize to Kannan and Khabour on behalf of my classmates, and hope they know there are some here who are willing to listen, and to take action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques: You are not a student at Connecticut College, and therefore, not a target of Lakshmi Kannan &amp; Razan Khabour&#8217;s letter.</p>
<p>For myself, I would like to state that if I saw anyone enacting this kind of hatred on campus, I would report the incident immediately, and let the vandals know that I was doing so; I implore other students who witness these crimes to do the same.  </p>
<p>I am appalled by what happened last Saturday.  I apologize to Kannan and Khabour on behalf of my classmates, and hope they know there are some here who are willing to listen, and to take action.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d&#039;ve been more than happy to provide an unconditional acknowledgement of victimization, had I not myself been made a target by their letter. Moreover, based on the authors&#039; response, I have every reason to believe that, no matter what I say, it will be dismissed out of hand as merely the affectation of open-mindedness, rather than a genuine expression thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d've been more than happy to provide an unconditional acknowledgement of victimization, had I not myself been made a target by their letter. Moreover, based on the authors&#8217; response, I have every reason to believe that, no matter what I say, it will be dismissed out of hand as merely the affectation of open-mindedness, rather than a genuine expression thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but conjecturing that, had I only come to an ATLAS meeting, I would have surely not made the comment I made does not in and of itself constitute a rebuttal of that comment. Nor does asserting that this widespread trend is self-evident constitute an argument as to its existence or scope. More to the point, I don&#039;t see how my attending a meeting or lecture would have made a difference. My argument doesn&#039;t concern itself with the truth of falsity of your claim about The Plagues. Rather, it focuses on the logical gap between describing in specific terms what happened to you and describing in vague terms what you see as a widespread trend on campus.

As I said several times in my response, I&#039;ve got no doubt that what happened to you was not in fact an isolated incident, so let&#039;s acknowledge that we agree on that. That doesn&#039;t change the fact that your letter failed by any standard to prove that point, opting instead to describe the disconnect between what it says in our Course Catalogue and what you personally see as infectious narrow-mindedness, then concluding with a counter-attack on your peers. 

You could have easily pulled up any number of articles in this paper detailing past instances of similar events, cited those as examples so as to underscore the pervasiveness you speak of, then gone on to say, as Angelica seems to think you did, that you want to see a change in campus, a turn away from this kind of behavior. 

I assure you I haven&#039;t fallen into anything. Your letter evinces no hope for your community; you&#039;ve written off the people who would help you with a maximum of self-righteous disdain. It&#039;s absolutely the equivalent to parading with a &quot;FUCK YOU&quot; sign, and, regardless of what befell you on Festivus, is unwarranted and counterproductive. It sums to an eye for an eye on a grand scheme, and will produce nothing good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but conjecturing that, had I only come to an ATLAS meeting, I would have surely not made the comment I made does not in and of itself constitute a rebuttal of that comment. Nor does asserting that this widespread trend is self-evident constitute an argument as to its existence or scope. More to the point, I don&#8217;t see how my attending a meeting or lecture would have made a difference. My argument doesn&#8217;t concern itself with the truth of falsity of your claim about The Plagues. Rather, it focuses on the logical gap between describing in specific terms what happened to you and describing in vague terms what you see as a widespread trend on campus.</p>
<p>As I said several times in my response, I&#8217;ve got no doubt that what happened to you was not in fact an isolated incident, so let&#8217;s acknowledge that we agree on that. That doesn&#8217;t change the fact that your letter failed by any standard to prove that point, opting instead to describe the disconnect between what it says in our Course Catalogue and what you personally see as infectious narrow-mindedness, then concluding with a counter-attack on your peers. </p>
<p>You could have easily pulled up any number of articles in this paper detailing past instances of similar events, cited those as examples so as to underscore the pervasiveness you speak of, then gone on to say, as Angelica seems to think you did, that you want to see a change in campus, a turn away from this kind of behavior. </p>
<p>I assure you I haven&#8217;t fallen into anything. Your letter evinces no hope for your community; you&#8217;ve written off the people who would help you with a maximum of self-righteous disdain. It&#8217;s absolutely the equivalent to parading with a &#8220;FUCK YOU&#8221; sign, and, regardless of what befell you on Festivus, is unwarranted and counterproductive. It sums to an eye for an eye on a grand scheme, and will produce nothing good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No lone gunman theory here. If you reread my response, you&#039;ll find that the second sentence concedes that this likely wasn&#039;t an isolated incidence, a sentiment I repeat without qualification in the last paragraph. I make not only the same point you do about the frequency of vandalism, but an even stronger point about the proliferation of vandals and bigots. I assure you, I am not ignorant to the presence of either.

Setting aside your interpretation of the authors&#039; points, your interpretation of mine seems myopic at best. I don&#039;t make any statements at all about the relative wrongnesses of vandalism and condescension. Nor do I compare the victims of this vandalism to the putative victims of condescension. That&#039;s all you. I&#039;m not sticking up for anyone in specific so much as decrying the approach these very rightfully frustrated individuals have taken in voicing their anger and disgust. 

I say: Be angry, be disgusted, but don&#039;t in lieu of having specific individuals to target then go ahead and target literally everyone around you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No lone gunman theory here. If you reread my response, you&#8217;ll find that the second sentence concedes that this likely wasn&#8217;t an isolated incidence, a sentiment I repeat without qualification in the last paragraph. I make not only the same point you do about the frequency of vandalism, but an even stronger point about the proliferation of vandals and bigots. I assure you, I am not ignorant to the presence of either.</p>
<p>Setting aside your interpretation of the authors&#8217; points, your interpretation of mine seems myopic at best. I don&#8217;t make any statements at all about the relative wrongnesses of vandalism and condescension. Nor do I compare the victims of this vandalism to the putative victims of condescension. That&#8217;s all you. I&#8217;m not sticking up for anyone in specific so much as decrying the approach these very rightfully frustrated individuals have taken in voicing their anger and disgust. </p>
<p>I say: Be angry, be disgusted, but don&#8217;t in lieu of having specific individuals to target then go ahead and target literally everyone around you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lakshmi</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakshmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to point out the difference between being a conservative&quot; or &quot;to have conservative values&quot; and to be &quot;conservative of thought&quot; 

The former refers to the traditional understanding of the word- principles and policies of a conservative political party- mostly a philosophy based on established institutions, stability, etc. 

The latter &quot;conservative of thought&quot; which is what I am calling out on - and is omnipresent at Conn- is the inability and outright rejection to expend any energy and thought into understanding a different view point. 
Some of the comments seem to suggest a blurring of these two different concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to point out the difference between being a conservative&#8221; or &#8220;to have conservative values&#8221; and to be &#8220;conservative of thought&#8221; </p>
<p>The former refers to the traditional understanding of the word- principles and policies of a conservative political party- mostly a philosophy based on established institutions, stability, etc. </p>
<p>The latter &#8220;conservative of thought&#8221; which is what I am calling out on &#8211; and is omnipresent at Conn- is the inability and outright rejection to expend any energy and thought into understanding a different view point.<br />
Some of the comments seem to suggest a blurring of these two different concepts.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurifa Hassan</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurifa Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the article was not meant to &quot;start a debate on the content of sticker itself&quot;. But I think it&#039;s about time we also  OPENLY discuss the content (i.e, the Israel/Palestine conflict) of the sticker on this campus as I also agree that this is one of the &quot;touchiest of touchy subjects at Conn&quot; (not to mention rest of the world). It seems obvious to me that people have strong opinions that they badly want to express. If &quot;Connecticut College educates students to put the liberal arts into action as citizens in a global society&quot;, it&#039;s only normal that we create space to discuss one of the most bloody and long lasting conflicts in the history of time. Surely it would be hypocritical to be apathetic. 

But as a graduating senior I am also extremely pessimistic about the evolution of the political culture at Conn as I find MOST of my peers to be unwilling to engage in discussions regarding international politics. In fact most students here are so pathetically ignorant of global issues that it&#039;s hard to even imagine having a extensive discussion on anything beyond may be US pop culture. This is my opinion from my own personal experience. Come, May 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the article was not meant to &#8220;start a debate on the content of sticker itself&#8221;. But I think it&#8217;s about time we also  OPENLY discuss the content (i.e, the Israel/Palestine conflict) of the sticker on this campus as I also agree that this is one of the &#8220;touchiest of touchy subjects at Conn&#8221; (not to mention rest of the world). It seems obvious to me that people have strong opinions that they badly want to express. If &#8220;Connecticut College educates students to put the liberal arts into action as citizens in a global society&#8221;, it&#8217;s only normal that we create space to discuss one of the most bloody and long lasting conflicts in the history of time. Surely it would be hypocritical to be apathetic. </p>
<p>But as a graduating senior I am also extremely pessimistic about the evolution of the political culture at Conn as I find MOST of my peers to be unwilling to engage in discussions regarding international politics. In fact most students here are so pathetically ignorant of global issues that it&#8217;s hard to even imagine having a extensive discussion on anything beyond may be US pop culture. This is my opinion from my own personal experience. Come, May 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Nayan</title>
		<link>http://thecollegevoice.org/2009/12/07/an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Nayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques,

I think your &#039;real&#039; criticism of a &#039;nominal&#039; open letter has some definite academic validity. The expression “the narrow minded conservatism that plagues this student body” for example does reflect a somewhat unfair generalization of the people who subscribe to conservative political ideologies, as you rightly point out. And yes I do think the writers could have chosen better expressions.

But unfortunately, your academic criticism of some problematic expressions in the letter completely dismisses the legitimate frustration  of the writers. And as someone who has always struggled to come in terms with the general lack of political sensibilities on campus, it deeply saddens me that you have chosen to go after the presentation of the letter rather than its larger implications. I think what this letter deserves is not a critical readership but at the very least an unconditional acknowledgment of victimization. 

As pessimistic as I am about the evolution of a culturally sensitive, pluralistic, and an inclusive political culture at Conn, I do believe that it is in these very moments of hurtful individual experiences that we can expect to begin our search for common grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques,</p>
<p>I think your &#8216;real&#8217; criticism of a &#8216;nominal&#8217; open letter has some definite academic validity. The expression “the narrow minded conservatism that plagues this student body” for example does reflect a somewhat unfair generalization of the people who subscribe to conservative political ideologies, as you rightly point out. And yes I do think the writers could have chosen better expressions.</p>
<p>But unfortunately, your academic criticism of some problematic expressions in the letter completely dismisses the legitimate frustration  of the writers. And as someone who has always struggled to come in terms with the general lack of political sensibilities on campus, it deeply saddens me that you have chosen to go after the presentation of the letter rather than its larger implications. I think what this letter deserves is not a critical readership but at the very least an unconditional acknowledgment of victimization. </p>
<p>As pessimistic as I am about the evolution of a culturally sensitive, pluralistic, and an inclusive political culture at Conn, I do believe that it is in these very moments of hurtful individual experiences that we can expect to begin our search for common grounds.</p>
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